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I normally don’t like to opine on the way how some direct sales company go about selling their products, as I feel that it’s not fair to stereotype and label all of them as some kind of getting rich quick pyramid schemes.

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However, one of them did cross the line when they approach my brother who is still in his secondary school. No doubt this eventually distracted him from his original course and basic responsibility, which is to complete his studies before start looking for money. I am definitely very annoyed with all the “materialistic” promises that they start preaching all these secondary school students, and it got worse when my brother starts asking for money to fund his “business”…

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If there’s one word that I can use to label these Lampe Berger salespeople, it’s DESPERATE.

For the sake of the society, please stop recruiting students who has yet to fulfil their primary responsibilities. Let them complete their secondary education. STOP brainwashing them with all the materialistic junks which has created so much fake hope and dreams.
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    This is something everybody MUST learn. Get rich quickies not only distracted the person involved from the basic responsibilities and the tasks they should first complete it but also changes their characteristic, the way they talk, their mind set, and even worse, it breaks the heart of people who really cares about them. These things never stop. It just kept going on and on and on with different schemes, different 'products', different calculations with the same old tactics. Something new? That's only something those upper levels want you to believe. It is NOT! Learn, be smart.
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    IMHO, if they make money, fine it's their business. What I really despise about these schemes is they give this false sense of hope to people. It exploits the very mind of the human, especially in a competitive and materealistic society now, which is full of greed, nothing gets more cruel than this. Agreed with anonymous about changing one to the worse as I've had friends who turned to the worse.
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    in China, MLM is still illegal. Doesn't stop them from operating underground though, I think.


    Wouldn't categorize all as evil too, though I think approaching secondary school students is a bit too much.
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    killarkai, did u mention u think?? tat's what u think lor.. doesn't mean every ppl think the same thing tat "U THINK" lor..
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    the comments tat i like to give to the 1st anonymous is.. 1st of all i'm sure that u dun have any dreams for ur life.. n the ppl tat u meet was very negative n i'm sure tat they r not using the proper way to run this business..n makes u have the impression tat MLM is cheating ppl or "student" money lor.. dun ever c things wth one eye okie?! thanks!
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    hahah, i know everybody have dream, but do remind urself that dream is something that unachievable, but vision, yes, it can be achievable.. As u said, it's a dream, MLM is a dream. I have seen so many ppl did this, but non of them are really get what they want in this. Everytime, when they trying to push u to join them, they kept telling u, how good is their product, how perfect is their marketing plan, but end up how come they always pull themselve off from the MLM after a period of time? Didn't they say their plan is perfect? i really don't know why..u tell me...


    If u really want to make money, put more effort in ur job. Don't dream too much, coz no point to daydream since u just wasting time on that.
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    well, maybe someone might wanna explain how avalanche happens..? :) how long can it stand before collapse?
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    to mr/mrs anonymous number 4, I know MLM ppl in China that were operating underground wayyy before the gov decided to amend the direct sales act(in which MLM is illegal), now that it is amended and MLM is STILL illegal (does not apply to all, but even Amway is hit, I figure most others should be illegal as well, correct me if i'm wrong.), what would stop them to continue operation? Anyway, this is out of topic ;) And you're right, thats what I think, do I have the right to think? :)
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    I have been into a few MLM talks and I personally joined a few. It never worked out as there is a few misconception that the "minority" of the MLM ppl is preaching.


    1. Your work and yr boss is exploiting you and you will never get rich working for your boss. -> I have a few close friends who is through hard work, was a millionaire.



    2. MLM is the ONLY best thing that happen to you. -> If you have never seen more, then MLM might looks like the only way out. Try this book, Multiple Stream of Income by Robert Allen.



    3. They talks abt how much you can earn. According to Kiyoksaki, that is just 1/2 of the equation. The other half is abt how you spend the money you make (how you invest the money). some MLM even ask you to commit to liabilities upon joining (buying a car) for the reason of showing off to your prospect. OMG!



    4. Mental hype and creating a dream. Both adds up together equals brain washing. It is good, if you really know what you are doing. This is part of neuro-linguistic programming which is used by ppl like Tony Robbins. But the sad thing is that, the MLM ppl, uses their will to enforce such mental hype on you. It means that you are buying on other ppl's dream and other ppl vision. It became an unnatural vision, deep inside that dream doesn't belongs to you. You became another person! You are mentally weak!



    5. Wrong motif! If you enter the business (in fact any business) to make money, then you will end up being a crook. For you are not adding value to the society but you want the society to provide you with what you want. Ask yourself, are you into the business because you want to help ppl or you are more excited about the mkt plan and the money.



    There are more, but if you really know what you are doing and not banging yr head on the wall with all those mental hype and dreaming, by all means do it.



    I have seen successful ppl in mlm with all the charisma and all the good spiritual values. I have seen some crooks as well, claiming making a 100k/mth from the plan and when you look at the total sales from the counter adds up together also not yet 100k. So how can the company pays him 100k/mth in compensation.



    MLM is here to stay, but yes, please do not disturb the mind of the students. Study doesn't mean you are doomed to be an employee for the rest of your life. To me, studying help me in my critical thinking and maturity.



    Lastly, don't be a millionaire wannabe! Learn step by step on how to be one!
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    Hey hey the only quickie I know is the one you get in the office from the secretary. :D~~
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    Lampe Berger = Lampa Bugger
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    Well, i knw very well that there are ppl making a lot of money out there bcoz of mlm, telling ppl that giving them 5 figures of income, buying BMW Sport Car or watever... the list go on...

    Well, is enough to tell me about those who are doing well, y not start telling me now those who still cant make it, still financially independent? those who are suffering, those who even having debt now?

    Or is there anyone from MLM wanna tell me, most ppl inside are earning 5 figures?? everyone driving at least a BMW??

    MLM is just another job(definitely not business, else than the one who own it~) to me I dont mean to be offensive to ALL MLM agents, BUT, im definitely pointing at those who constantly trying to give ppl fake hope and in the end ruined ppl's ordinary life...
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    Hi,

    I got another site on this

    http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/

    I will link to yours. Good content.
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    dreams r no dreams, sleep better, after years of doing the same work everyday, thats the nightmare, y should v take care of others while the society treat us like slaves? hell to all those rich, for they had ruin our lifes, they enslave us, they teach us to b a good slave, work for them, they get all the money, v get the same amount even if v work harder, yeah, dun work so hard, it is useless for our own sake
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    We must think positively. If everyone think likes you and want to join MLM, then who's going to be doctor, lawyer, teacher, lecturer, maid???

    Im saying this not because i hate MLM, is because MLM is not for everyone!!

    To realise your dreams is the most important ones.

    Dreams that could add values to the society not the foolist and self-centered dreams like driving your BMW!!!

    Dreams like building a school, hospital, create job opportunity to the jobless is the points!!

    If your dream is driving BMW, live in a nice house, you are nothing but a greedy and self-centered person.

    In this world, there are TONS of ways to achieve your dreams!! Choose the suitable & the right way. If there is a will there is a way!! Is not always MLM!!!
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    Hello Everyone!!!,

    I'm Ah Wai from MLM. Such a nice post from all of you :)

    I admit sometimes the MLMers always use this kind of tactic of luring "potential" people into their business. Eg. N-stream, Synergy, Herbalife, Lampeberger, Amway, Diamond, eCosway, IMagic, NuSkin, CNI and etc.

    I'm also ex-anti MLMer just like you all. Proud to be antiMLMers. "MLM is conbusiness" and "StudioTraffic is PONZI SCHEME!" Hehehe... :)

    But, AT LAST i realise in this World of Events..."Capitalism"

    EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE OR PEOPLE CON YOU...you choose!

    Sami Vellu, politicians, MPSJ, MPPJ, MBI, dato, datuks, Thaksin, Arroyo, Suharto, *me* and etc also CONNING people $$$ only what...

    I only take little con $$$ while the *people mentioned above* CON the "rakyat" & taxpayer's $$$ BIG TIME! SO what is the FUSS?

    I con my lecturer before, i cheat on my exam before, i Ponteng class before, i cheated during SNOOKER, i cheated my fren before, hell i even con my GF before. Hahaha. What is the BIG FUSS?

    As i say, EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE or PEOPLE CON YOU...Its a survival skill!

    Its better for us, "the little guy with no $$$" to con little $$$, than "the BIG SHOT GOVERNMENT officials" to con the rakyat $$$.

    RIght?

    I'm DAMN sure the GOvernment DOn't MIND this little $$$ one.

    AIyah, we group together as a group of "hardcore anti-lampeberger", then we charge those people who is also "anti-lampeberger" RM 100 each. Then, we also make LOTS of $$$.

    Simple calculation,

    RM 100 x 10,000 member (ANTI-LAMPEBERGER) = RM 1,000,000!!!!

    Then, we BUY Ferrari and BMW to drive to Menara HLA, park at the FRONT and BURN them. This we show that we also can make $$$ ma!!!

    DAMN good IDEA...!!!

    WE group together ok...WE KEEP in touch! Malaysia BOLEH!

    Remember, my name is AH Wai from SYN DCHL Lampeberger :)
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    So... just because other people do it to you it's best you do it to them first?

    Wow. Where's your logic from, planet batshit insane?
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    MLM done in sincere and honest way is just like an own business profession. This can be seen across the pond in developed countries.

    The whole problem in Asia lies in the mentality of the peole involved turning it to brainwash the less suspecting people. Its a disgrace and a masquerade and its become a load of crock.

    Best example is Lampu Berger, the upline recruit the younger people to instill a mindset that is so fake that it becomes a show. Find yourself at Wisma HLA in the evening to see all these people in the lobby literally best dressed for a simple ordinary sales talk?!?! these people dont even dress this well when they report in for duty in their 9-5 jobs. Its just uncalled for having to dress so well to attend a sales talk to sell a lamp?!?!?

    I have encountered more than one MLM sales pitch and Lamp Berger takes the cake. I accepted an invitation to attend one of these meetings one fine day and I decided to dress down for the occasion and boy did I get the stares from the so-called-yuppies (my foot!) These young and innocent crowd gave me the stares that implied a sense of superiority which makes my stomach churn thinking about it. Knowing that they have just embarked into the real/working world its really sad to see them bening led into the wrong avenue.
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    Boo2MLM,

    Yes, actually you summed up the essence of doing business in your first paragraph- sincerity and honesty.

    When one lacks the two elements above, we get all kinds of illegal businesses booming in the name of a growing economy. Yes, we can even slap "LEGAL" to some of this business, since it benefits directly to the entity who slaps it and the one that is slapped. As long as the slappings benefit the slapped and the slappers, nobody is going to complain, not even the victims.

    So, if we cannot change how businesses are run, how businessman behaves, how they go around selling their stuff, we can only help ourselves by equiping ourselves with the knowledge and information about the events around us.

    Yes, we might say NO to LB today, but I can guarantee there'll be many other scams that's looming and being planned right now at this moment in the drawing board, waiting only to victimize the uninformed.

    Say NO to GREED and a lot of our problems with Get Rich Quick scams will be solved.

    Again, there's no free lunch!
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    Once upon a time, I had a friend who joined lb. Being the aggressive type, he was a typical candidate to be recruited. One night, he invited me to the mamak for a drink and some of his friends joined us. They were his upline and some other equally/higher ranked lb members. In the course of events, a purely social situation became a "bitching about business" session. Apparently my friend, we shall call him A, was upset that his other friend, B, kept telling him that he'll (B) "think about it" everytime A tried to get him to attend a sales pitch meeting. I confirmed my suspicions about lb the moment all of the newcomers started telling A that B was not a true friend, that he did'nt "respect" him and that A should "fuck him off" because he wasn't a true friend. Note, both A and B have been friends for 20 years.
    There is something wrong with a company that says they "build partnerships" but tell their members to slag off people who are not interested. Bluntly put, the only other people I know who have this effective a brainwashing technique are Al Qaeda and Aum Shinri Kyo.
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    zius, can you come XXXX XX XXX XX XXXX???

    thank you.

    Yow Chuan: Please refrain from posting indecent comments and remarks on this blog. Thank you for your understanding.
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