Quantcast
"Writing is the only profession where no one considers you ridiculous if you earn no money."
Jules Renard

Meshio.com

a Malaysia personal finance blog

Forum Bookstore Articles Services Email Me Disclaimer






Lampe Berger: Scam or No Scam?

I didn’t expect that this thread is still alive after so many months since I posted it. I would like to hereby make a conclusion to this entire furor over the legitimacy of the whole Lampe Berger thing.

First of all, my conclusion is totally made up of my own opinion, and it might not suit your way of looking at the whole thing. But I hope you do not take offence or feel that I am in any way saying what you think right now is wrong. All I am hoping is that we look at this whole agenda in an objective manner, and if you ever start feeling uncomfortable as you read through this post, click the “Close Window? or Ctrl+W? button immediately, and we can still be friends! :-D

Okay, here goes… Firstly, I do not want to condemn the way Lampe Berger is going about their distributing or recruiting scheme. If someone is making profit out of it, fine. If someone is enjoying the process of distributing and recruiting using the scheme, fine. As for me, after looking at the grand scheme of things, I have personally concluded that to use such a scheme to achieve my personal financial freedom is not aligned with my personal guidelines.

You see, this is a personal choice. I can neither make this choice for you nor for anyone else. You need to check with your conscience and if you think your decision can make you sleep soundly at night, than it’s the right thing to do.

Many of you might say that some people are brainwashed into joining the scheme, but how can one be brainwashed without being actively involved in the decision making process. Let’s not go into hypnotism here, we are here talking about adults who have learn enough about how to differentiate whether an act is helping others or harming others. So, for those who are brainwashed, you must already have the intention inside of you before you can make the decision to do something.

Back to the issue, I would like to point out that this scheme is neither evil nor good. This scheme only becomes evil if some greedy individual make use of it to victimized other individuals to achieve his objective.

This scheme is good if it’s used to distribute a product with the intention to reduce cost and increase efficiency so that more people can enjoy the product at a reasonable price.

Once again, the good and bad of this plan do not lie in the plan itself, but with the executor of the plan. If you have no idea whether the execution has resulted into something positive or negative, just listen to the feedback of the people who has joined the plan or used the product. This should give you a very good standpoint to judge your action and also to review if you should continue the cycle again. Judging can also be very difficult if you do not posses the necessary experience and information, and hence it is better for you to seek advice or opinions from people who are more knowledgeable than you and of course, whose opinions you respect.

I would like to re-emphasize my standpoint; I do not want to condemn this marketing plan?. I have personally used my own guidelines? to evaluate the whole scheme and have concluded that I am unable to accept the way this scheme works and hence if I’d join this business, it will make me a very unhappy person. No doubt, some people are making tonnes of profit from it, and that’s good for them, and I hope they are able to give as much as they’ve received. As for me, I can still achieve my financial objectives through a different channel, while enjoying the process of getting there, which is exactly what I am doing now.

As for those people who had been lied to? or scammed? by this plan, all I can say is learn from it. Yes, you can complaint and rant about it for the rest of your life, but if you do not learn why you had been scammed?, then you will still be scammed again by some other scams that comes along the way. There’s nothing worst in life than making the same mistakes over and over again.

That’s about it, my conclusion on the whole Lampe Berger agenda. Like I said, do what you wish with your money, nobody can stop you. My only advice to you is, do not just look at the all the nice promises and gimmicks you see with your raw eyes. Take a step back, ask yourself:

(i) Is this really something you want to do?
(ii) If the plan fails, will you be able to take up full responsibility?
(iii) Will you feel happy doing it?
(iv) Will it benefit everyone and yourself?
(v) Would you want others to do this onto you?
(vi) Will you be able to sleep safe and sound tonight?

If you answer NO to any of those questions above, you should be very clear what to do next- keep your day job!





You might want to read these too... Comments
  • Max Ee
    Chuan, seems like you are having a headache from you previous post... God bless.
  • Dato' Ahmad
    I've been involved in the Network Marketing industry for a year, and currently earning RM800 per day from this. Since I joined in Jan 2008, I only spend my weekends for this, as I spend my weekdays working. I will not reveal the name of my company here.

    Network Marketing is the best way to launch one's business career. Refer to Robert Kiyosaki video clip on 'Why Network Marketing?' on Youtube. It provides you the platform to enter the business world, with very low start-up costs. With proper mindset, effort, and actions, you can definitely succeed.

    However, most Network Marketing companies in Malaysia are either scams, or even if they're not scams legal-wise, they're either forbidden in Islam, or have weakness in terms of their products, or compensation structure, that makes it difficult for one to succeed in making money through it.

    However, there are only two network marketing companies in Malaysia that has perfect products and compensation structures. Both legal and allowed in Islam, and have good business features. I don't guarantee that you can succeed with it, of course you still need to put in the right effort and strategy, but the business model does make it easier for you to succeed.

    There are only THREE network marketing companies in Malaysia, that you can trust - AMWAY, BIONUTRIC/I-LINKAGE, or SUCCESS UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA. The rest are BULLSHIT. Especially LAMPE BERGER. I'm saying this, honestly, as a neutral, and as someone who's experienced and have succeeded in Network Marketing and also other businesses. Honestly, you can have my word on this.

    I do know the facts and I'm experienced in the MLM and Network Marketing industry, and I'm recommending if you want to make money through Network Marketing, DO NOT JOIN LAMPEBERGER/DCHL/SYN. There are too many features about it that makes it an absolute scam. Join one of the three I mentioned above.

    You can be rich from it, if you put in the right effort and strategy, but once you become rich, you've ended up ruining many people's lives.

    Here's the shocker, RZ Corporation, the company running SYN/DHCL/LAMPE BERGER, is actually an illegal company. You can refer to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs website. It has been illegal for a year now. It's JB branch has been closed down, and is running illegally as we speak.

    ALL THE BEST IN YOUR PURSUIT OF SUCCESS,

    Motivated Entrepreneur Who Made A Million Before Age 21
  • Nizam
    Thanks for the info...A few hours ago my friend invited me to join this scheme,.and I thought it was amazing..But after reading your story, I am scared of joining..lol..thanks!!!
  • alimamak
    It seems theres as many Dato's in Malaysia as there are Sergeant in the Police Force. And you are only earning RM800 per day? That is what I earn per hour (USD). And all because of TRUE franchise business of FOOD industry.
    No matter what items / product you're selling to people, they always need food - from richest to poorest. All need food...and that is true business.

    Regards,

    Brig. General (R) Dato' Seri Dr. Alaudin bin Thamei
    Eagle Soar Corp. Ltd
    Brisbane, Aust.
  • ShadowFox
    One of the poster asked why no action has been taken on DHCL/LB guys.

    The answer is pretty simple actually. One of their top high flyer is an MCA bigshot.

    So now DHCL is protected by politicians and triads.

    Who dares to touch them ?
  • ShadowFox
    http://forum.lowyat.net/lofiversion/index.php/t...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The MCA Connection

    user posted image

    Name: Winnie Lim
    Age / Gender: 42,Female
    Upline Duke: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
    Upline Marquis: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
    Current Position: Duke
    Place of Birth: Kedah, Malaysia
    Profession / Business / Jobs: Business Woman

    Why choose LB? :This is an International Network Marketing Business. Coming from a traditional business background environment, there is no doubt this is a very smart industry offering infinite market potential and sustainability.

    How have you benefited from LB ? :I used to have a very sensitive nose. After using the product, I became confident in the product and business. I joined the business to create my second success story !

    user posted image

    From the right, Winnie Lim,Steven Yeam,Lee and Montfort board of directors chairman Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert

    user posted image

    Another pic,From the right...Winnie Lim,Steven Yeam,Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert,Lee

    user posted image

    A pic from DCHL official websites.


    FYI,she's from MCA and also the secretary for Datuk Ng Yen Yen (MCA Wanita).SOme DCHL/SYN members also like to use this words to CONvinced the water fish by saying:

    "If Winnie Lim the secretary of Datuk Ng Yen Yen is doing this business, how wrong can this business be, sure a successful business plan, come in and cut count now."
  • Manoj Patel
    My self Manoj Patel residing at Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India. Previously I was join with Mr. Steven Yeam, I had started our DCHL / SYN Office at Ahmedabad under Steven Yeam leadership. I want to start this business again, so let me know what to do? or I like to talk with Mr. Steven Yeam. Please help me. With Regards Manoj Patel
  • Manoj Patel
    I want to restart my business. Previously I was join with Steven Yeam as count position. For that what I have to do? I was join DCHL / SYN in India Ahmedabad Gujarat. Plz help me. With Regards Manoj Patel.
  • alex
    DCHL.... DID YOU SURE ALL PEOPLE CAN DO?ARE YOU CRAZY?ALL NO NEED TO WORK?WHO MAKE FOOD FOR YOU?WHO MAKE HOUSE FOR YOU LIVE?TODAY HAVE PARTY AT SUNWAY LAGGON!BECAUS SYN....I AND MY FG GET SOME PRO!WHY JOIN THIS CANNOT HAVE BF?
  • terryl
    scam and scram!
  • Meen
    Hello.
    So Many Negative things have been posted here.Why dont u all join my direct buying company.Only required 2 friends,capital as low as RM 532.00.Income RM 684 per day max.Hurry Up.My H/P: <removed>
    Yow Chuan: No free advertisement please :-)</removed>
  • yes - the company, products & marketing plan offers a great business chance. but if you abuse it, shower people with nonsense, please will feel cheated. i blame the greedy distributors who only promote things which will benefit them, not to what suitable for someone.
    im a proud member of dchl, under steady global network & i am doing fine - covering half of my investment in just a month - with the help of my uplines and network friends who are always ready to help, even if they wont get a cent out of it.
    thank you DCHL for changing my life :)
  • and one more thing, they shouldnt force you to take speed plan for count. just start off at 2.5k, they are always alternatives to climb the rank.
  • lola
    huargh..... im been cheeted....
    Pay 33k to get count place, after 6 month i just pay for my loans.....

    where my team partners who are promise will hell & develop me to success. What i heared just 3 my upline stop joinning LB coz fedup.....

    lost money
    lost freind
    lost time
    lost everithing....
  • a5k
    bad luck for your you. Mine better. My team always help me. I get more friends. more time, more money. just need to work lil bit harder. Please go see your upline's upline. they should help.
  • puteri
    this is not investment business.. just put money and do nothing.. u need to develope and grow... so sorry for u
  • julie
    this is not an investment scheme where you put 36k and hope the money will grow. with 36k you get products worth over 43k.

    if you sell, you'll enjoy the 20-38% profit margin.

    if you get enrollment under you, you'll enjoy the profit margin plus huge company commission ranging from rm234.50 to rm5316.00 per person enrolled.and after that, you'll get commission again and again everytime your downline has activities.

    but if you invest 36k, get the products but nothing about it, of course you dont get anything. if you rent a shop, bring in stocks but never open, how to make money?this company offers a chance to work your money until the money works for you endlessly, up to a stage where you can just sit back & relax & just check your statement.if you open a conventional biz for 20 years, if you choose to quit today, you'll stop earning. but not in this biz. once your network is established, the money will come to you effortlessly.but you have to build your foundation first.

    there is something wrong with your team. my team is more worried about my money than me!! always calling asking whether i need their help and come to help me whenever i have problem, even when they dont get a cent out of me if i succeed. this is not a one-man show, we work as a team. why not change your team?

    once you are enrolled, you are enrolled for life. (if you dont cancel in 3 months). means you are still a distributor right? hurry, move now to make your money start rolling back! email me at <-email address removed->. ill see where i can help you out. i dont get a cent also, but im willing to help you.

    Yow Chuan: Sorry, no free advertising ;-)
  • X SGN
    Steady Global Network or SYN both sucks & scams. Always after your money and ruin yr life!!! The product is good but the problem only the people involve with LB... I know 1 of the Duke and lots of Marquis got only not more than 3K per mth (told by DCHL staff) If you want to do biz just get involve in REAL biz.
  • Edmond
    People who just shout out "scam! scam!" are just scamming themselves, their friends, and everyone around. Because they don't even understand what is going on. Get the full research and understanding.

    MLM is an opportunity! Not a given success.

    For those who haven't thought about their future, do you want to work until your 60 - 70 or 80 before you retire? Do you want to work under a boss for the rest of your life struggling to pay bills and the mortgage loan or rent? Do you have dreams and desires of doing things you want before you grow too old?? Do you want to spend time with your loved ones instead of working day and night without vacation?

    I've thought about all this, which is why i started out investments when i was young. DCHL is one of them, and it's proven to be my best investment yet.

    Is it a scam? Well I'll tell you all this.. my investments all made back and now enjoying four figures a month income. Do you think i got scammed?

    Is it unethical? I'm making money through this business.. I shared this opportunity with my friends and now they all make money with me too.. Imagine if I kept this from them.. I wouldn't think they would like me very much today. Except I shared with them what i believed was a good OPPORTUNITY and i let them decide for themselves. Some joined some didn't, we're all still good friends. Then again, my friends who didn't join are struggling and need our financial help now.. sigh

    It is an OPPORTUNITY to create a passive income. You don't just put money in and sit back and hope it'll make money out of nothing. I worked hard in the beginning. I didn't give up when i felt like it was difficult. Now i'm happier than ever with my family and friends enjoying life together. We don't have a boss, no manager no one to tell us what we have to do just to pay the bills. Life is great.

    Why won't you sleep at night? I sleep so good because i know I am helping others not just for financial freedom, but also TIME freedom. Time is more valuable than money. I want to spend a lot of time with my family and loved ones. Having a job that requires 8am to 7pm is not something I want for my future.

    People invest into the business hoping for the same thing. They will work hard to achieve this. DCHL hasn't lied to me. I am achieving my dreams of success.
    I can't be skeptical my whole life. I need to take a chance. So now i have not even looked back.

    So again, I am making money here. I have shared it with my friends this opportunity, and they are now too making money (some still making back their investments). I help others in the business and I don't force anyone to do this against their will. I hope I am still ethical.


    It doesn't matter what others tell you, think for it yourself.
    Scam? I can be your answer.
    And it is only ethical to share what's good with others.

    This is just my opinion of what a unethical scam is.
    Think about it..

    Hope you all take care

    Edmond
  • BS
    SYN "successful, young entrepreneurs"? they drive sports cars but live in rented cheap flat, 4-5 people sharing, minimal furniture!! the car is just the "bait" waiting for big fish like you to get fooled!! have they read Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki? House is an asset, car is liability- just like LB / SYN...diabetes, heart disease, cancer, asthma, migraine, obesity, all can cure with fragrant oil? huh? close down all hospitals now...
  • Count Jay
    People, Cool... It's a fair business. All business needs inversments. It could be money or time or efford... If you just want to put in money and expecting monthly 5 Figure income, i suggest you something, Get RM 1.2M (Cost Ferrari F430), and invest in in FD, where you can neglociate with bank for 10% per month, where you will earn RM 10k each month...
    When comes to business, you need to workout, we are not going to build out network forever. When we have enought partners, We will open out outlets in popular shoping complexes and all the distributor will be given a share from the sales, Don't you want it?
    The most popular "cable tv" service in Malaysia is a product of MLM! You people are being MLM product comsumer everyday.
    Mark-up? A can drink Cost RM 0.17 sen but we buy at RM 1.70 each because the distribution expenses and promotional expenses, the same can if in a PUB or Club will cost RM 15.00 you didn't even question that.
    So cool. Non of our product will cure the sick la you BS coconut... We relife those. If you don't know then don't talk.
    If you cant do, why invested RM 36k? Go for RM2.5k... If you don't want to do then fine, we respect you. Don't just F##k around..
    TC Dude...
  • ameen
    I see, which cable TV? please provide any url/proof for your claims.
  • mickeymouse
    Lampe Berger??arghh....i'v been cheated by my upline.His name Yap Hon Ban,when i join in all of them are caring about me,after 3 months,the marquis of our team,Jess ask me to get a count place cost around RM30k and u wil succeed in 6 months,and if i wan to refund within 6 months,i can get back my 90% money..but when i wan to refund,they don even give it,and say continue do and find more frens to come,we can talk to them,but at last they slowly leave me and don care of me,because of my upline wan to challenge marquis,so ask me to get a count place,wat a stupid upline..if u really wan to join MLM biz,please do not go to tis SYN,it's a cheated company..don get fooled by tis!!!!!!!
  • lamp berger...he comes,he talk,he robs...hahaha J/k well 2 of my close fren are one of those suffering from stock piling and luckily someone help him to self off all the stock last month. I guess ppl out there who need help can email me. Just try to help, can't promise anything
  • kent
    hi how to sell out those products? i have stock. thanks.
  • Jasmine
    I am long term user. How do I contact u?
  • loochng
    Hi Chrisolution,

    May I know how and where I can sell out the stocks? Really appreciate if you can help me. thanks
  • Jasmine
    I am a long term user. How do I contact u?
  • mankl
    Hi, may i know if u can help me to sell back my stocks and how to contact u
  • Chuah
    may l know how the LB attract ppl to join what are tte tactis use by them?
  • Chuah
    anyone can [rovide me more info about this scheme, someone is asking me to join. may l know how the LB attract ppl to join what are tte tactis use by them?
  • Chuah,
    Just go to some of the meeting then you will know lo....
  • Yes, I agree totally with Chris on this- just go to the meetings and find out for yourself.

    However, it's common for these meetings to be filled with lots of elements of brainwashing.

    Just remind yourself constantly to stay neutral and do not make any decisions until you are in a better state of mind.
  • IPTA_student
    Dear IPTA students,

    I’m writing on behalf of the parents who wish to send their children to IPTA IS TO STUDY, & NOT DO LB

    For your informations, I’d met with many SYN member and I’d been to the room of the member who INVESTED RM30,+++. You know what I see The STUPID LAMPs are all around ! Let me ask you all, if Lampe Berger “REALLY REALLY GREAT, FANTASTIC, YES!�, then why this member couldn’t sell even one of his products?

    A businessman/woman will only sell products in the market if the products is really good. As a result, that member has to struggle, work part time for his life expenses.

    Tuan-tuan dan puan-puan sekalian,

    Parents kite kerje susah payah, simpan duit kat bank, EPF, SOKSO etc utk siape? Utk masa mrk tua nanti la, ataupun antar anak-anak ke IPTA. Tapi, manu tau pulak ada SCAM kat IPTA. SYN pulak ajar mrk balik utk TIPU DUIT SIMPANAN ayah/mak mrk.

    SAYA SUDAH BUAT BANYAK SIASATAN, dan ada member SYN ckp,�ORG MELAYU SIMPLE-MINDED PUNYA, SENANG NAK PANGGIL MRK JOIN…HEHEHE…�

    SEMOGA Google Page Rank website ini selalu TOP
  • THINK
    For those who have gone into the business and HAVEN'T found success...

    Just look back at some of these simple scenarios in our life...

    The 1st time we rode a bicycle...we fall.We didnt blame the bike.We blame ourselves for not knowing how to ride it.

    When we get bad grades in exams.We didnt blame the teachers or the school.We blame ourselves for not studying hard.

    But after trying hard to improve plus a never quit attitude we achieved all that.

    Suddenly when YOU "fail" in this business, you start blaming others for your "failure". There's nothing wrong with the company, products or the business model. Its just that you have stop trying.

    Most of us enter into an MLM business with a mindset of a employee.

    If you set your mind same as a business person would treat their business, I can assure you that you will not fail.

    Actually you did not fail.. YOU JUST STOP TRYING.YOU'RE being a QUITTER.

    Try being a quitter in what you're doing now and see where you'll end up?

    And try quitting your life.... you'll sure be dead!

    I'm sure some readers will say its not the same... but actually it is!

    And for those negetive comments.. please get your facts right before posting.
  • Hi THINK,

    I agree with the points that you have. No businesses can succeed on auto-pilot mode.

    Your analogies are very true too.

    But when you ask my readers to get their facts right, I cannot blame for not getting it because you have not published any facts in your commentary.

    For starters, I recommend you read this: http://www.pyramidschemealert.org

    After reading that, please refute the "facts" that we don't already know.

    For the record, I am not a member of any MLM companies. However, I have enough experiences (or should I say bad experiences) with the MLM industry to identify the rotten apples.
  • Yeeha
    Hi yow chuan,

    what about insurance agencies - what is your opinion comparing MLM with Insurance companies?
  • Sin Hua
    sebenarnya syarikat2 insurans yang ada juga menjalankan konsep MLM. Cuma mungkin kita semua x perasan. Bukan tu saje, syarikat2 telekomunikasi contoh seperti Digi juga dah start konsep MLM. Aku percaya korang x perasan kan? Cuma yg aku x paham, kenapa korang sibuk ambush kat SYN?

    Aku sangat setuju dengan pernyataan Think.
    Ape2 bende yang kite buat kalau kite give up, kite tak akan kemane.
    Try to qive up ur life tengok ape akan jadi.

    My frens,
    A winner never quit. A quitter never win!

    Kepada ex-SYN @ SGN,
    The journey is not easy myfrens but when u keep on going, somehow somewhere u will see a shining star.
  • sHaMa
    There`s other ways for us to gain more money by not 'using' other ppl (prospect).. this is wat i`ve concluded .
  • f3
    MLM just f**king sucks. Especially a stupid product like Lampeberger.. Who the hell in their right mind (unless brainwashed) would buy something that cost so much (and you have to keep spending to use the product - the stupid oil). F**K just but air freshner in your house enough la...

    I've met a lot of people who are unhappy after they have dealt with these MLM brainwashers. None of them had anything nice to say. All regretted that they put in so much time and money into this.

    To those who are brainwashers, shut the f**k up.

    To others, stay away.
  • http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index.php?option=com_...

    SYARIKAT YANG TELAH DIBATALKAN LESEN 2008
    RZ Corporation Sdn Bhd AJL931127 31.07.2008
  • So, that means they are abandoning ship?
  • Wanting to Know
    are you sure that this syn company is a scam and the license for this company is canceled?
  • xyberlj
    SUPERMAN xde pun jat ctu kate dah batal. tgk my post date utk tau bile saya periksa.
  • karen
    Dear friends,

    yeah, dun simply listen to your upline...it's all cheated!!!......i'm one of the victim. From the beginning, i still a student in local university. One day, one of my so call " friend" ask me to attend one seminar. According to her, this is a great opportunity to listen to the talk. The speaker is a very smart and successful person in life. Surely he will bring a lot of benefit to us. But she didn't mention wat is the purpose of the seminar. She didn't gave much time for me to consider and straight away arrange transportation for me and some of my friends to attend that seminar. At the moment, i believe my friend that the seminar will beneifit me. But, after that, i realise that this is a MLM business and so call network marketing. At the time, i didn't feel any interested in that business, but believe me, please don't ever go to that kind of seminar. U will easily be influenced and brainwashed. They came from a large group. There are a lot of members there, sure u will be catched. This is my real experience. After join the LB, i feel uneasy and disagreed with the tactics they are using. They usually use the relationship and trustee between you and your friends to win the business. After join about 1 month, i feel guilty, i can't even convince myself to do the business. I feel that is like a cheated games.........The money that i invested is gone and cannot refund anymore.............So, friends, please think twice before you make a decision. I treat it as one of my biggest mistake in my life and i learn from it.
  • dreamer
    very agree... this is a true story that same with my own as well... if u wanna go such seminar, make sure your mentality is strong or else u'll be brain washed. when u are brainwashed, whatever we say here become bullshit and whatever they do is best. u'll never admit you are in the wrong world coz you are desprate to find your victim at that time...

    and it takes a lots af sacrifice to get out of the hell. lost frens, time, money and etc. and when you recall what you had done previously you'll feel very guilty to your frens and if you recall what had you said previously when you are brainwashed, you'll feel like want to beat urself. you can only realised the truth after long painful spell.

    and when you are out of the hell, you feel very sorry to see those people who are newly cheated and feel sympathy for those who are argueing with you when you telling the truth on how dangerous this thing can be... you feel all these coz you had saw everything about it...

    god bless u all... be rational...
  • Gigi
    MLM business is mean that if the least person which join this business didn't find any people to join but if he still can earn money, that only can MLM business... If not all just BULLSHIT!
    For example, Cosway , Amway and Elken can call is the tranditional and can earn money MLM business. Because they really selling the product! But for LB, is just cheat! WHat they sell? Lamp? Or a Bullshit Plan? And the person inside is so bad... The guy was damn bad.... Cheated women.....All are playboy! LB is just a cheated club!
  • xx
    not every MLM company is like that...what is good will last for long time...what is wrong will never last for long..time can prove everything. Example Amway. Amway is a really good comapany...this company awarded BrandLaureate 2006-2007." Laureate mean "one that is worthy of the greatest honour or distinction". Pick the right comapny and understand what is MLM and the company background and the marketing plan.
  • kevn
    from my opinion, MLM, LB or any business network is not a scam. If u really can do it, u will successful like those guys on top. but the question here is....CAN YOU REALLY DO IT?? do u know how many ppl join and struggle and only a handful get to be on top?? what makes you think you will be the one on top? Wat Chuan says is true, it's ur own money, you can use it however you want. If u wanna give urself a shot to be on top, when u faied one day, those company will say THANK YOU to u for paying the membership fees and etc..hehe
  • Constance
    SYN is really a good company? u ask 10 person, they all will told u that was a damn shit company....Yup, not everyone can do that business.. you know why? The person which can success just because they bring a lot ppl inside....The money they earn act is the member that they bring in giv them also.... If not i ask you, how they earn money! Now they targeted the market to Malay ppl alr...u know why? Just because all chinese alr didn't trust them... They hard to wash chinese brain alr... So they try to change target for the Malay fren.... That day I saw a lot of SYN ppl in Time Square there.... They every month will hav the "WASH BRAIN" function.....I saw a lot of Malay Fren.... God bkess u all.......
  • makhluk tuhan
    ramainya people suka hentam sana, hentam sini. semua perkara baru kite kene think + first, n think - untuk langkah berhati-hati. skali u dh joint dgn mn2 prog, kene usaha lebih la sampai dpt hasilnya.. itu pun susah sgt ke nk pikir.. suka hati diorang la nk masuk ape pun..
  • d1
    yeah.. pretty much the truth.. its about personal choice.. but as the statistic says, no matter how optimistic the person joins is, mostly will fail at it because the system itself is ruined.. pls visit my writing about similar topic at http://diwant.blog.friendster.com/ . tahnks...
  • carbon
    SGN n SYN...sama penipu...let me told you one story...mula2 diorng ajak kwn2 baik diorg dulu...ayat dia cmni...KO KENA DTG DENGAR DULU..NI BKN CTER2 KEDAI KOPI PUNYE..KALAU KO DTG BARU KO TAU...so mmbr2 aku ni pun dtg dngr lar..kang x pg kwn baik..x kan lar kawan baik nak kenceng kot....abis je dengau cter..psl udara lar..200 years product lar...duit sbln leh dpt 20k lar...ada mamat dr HQ cter psl dia ssh dulu lar..pas2 terus kaya...kalau msk group x kan biarkan ahli terkapai-kapai....BAIKKK..SANGATT BAIKKK...YESS...

    abis je dngr cter..diorg followup blk..ajak naik tngk HQ kalau x percaya...perghhhh...bestnyer tempat ni..semua org pakai baju kot...tengk SPA lagi...so kwn2 baik ni percaya ler biz kwn2 baik yg ajak dulu ni mmg betul....sok lusa pump 2.5k...x sampai 2 mggu ajak amik level yg top...ayat baikk jer..KO KALAU NAK RS MCM AKU KO MSK 30KNYER...CROWN TUE....mana aku nak cr duit...ALAHHHH...CMNI KO PERGI JE BUAT PERSONAL LOAN...ALAHHH 30K JE...DLM MS 4-5 BLN KO DAH ABIS BAYO...APA KO NAK TAKUT...SBLN KO DPT 20K TU....

    sekarangggggggggg............mmbr baik pun dah x jumpa...lari sana-sini....stock myk beribu2 kat rumah jer....groups yg kata nak tlg pun hampehhh...dah ler berhenti keje..igt nak buat full time..last2 tlg keje wiring dr mmbr2....

    IGT LAR KWN2 SEMUA...SGN CKP SYN PARASIT...SYN PUN CKP SAMA JE AYATNYER...DIORG NI DAH TERPESONG DARI MATLAMAT SEBENAR LAR...TU SEMUA AYAT STANDARD YG KORANG AKAN DENGAR KALAU KORANG JUST NAK PERGI DNGR MAMAT2 SYN N SGN NI CTER...X PRCAYA KORNG PG LER...PRGI X PER JGN MSK DAH LERR...

    LA NI AKU DENGAQ KECOH2 KAT MELAKA LAK...SYN DTG BUAT GERAK GEMPUR...
  • scammer
    one thing for sure, this is a scam... only brainwahsed person will say no... i've been inthis hell and out of it soon enough to still be rational and i really thank god for that... at least not losing frens, money and time like others... phew~~~

    p/s: no free lunch in this world... upline help even not taking a cent out of it? that is so bullshit... but u never know if you are the one who get the help... people beside u who care about u will know... that's the nature of human... weird right... hehehe...
  • laici
    La pe nak kecoh... mana MLm pun mmg leh jump nye... tapi mana der MLM yang leh sponser...
    semuanya kena ada usaha yang berterusan... kawan awak tu mmh dah tau dia kena usaha then baru dapat.. mmg tak mustahil boleh dapat 20k sebulan sebab saya dah dapat 21k dlm 2 minggu.
    tapi ni bukan skim cepat kaya sentiasa dapat banyak.. mana2 biz mmg ada naik turun... tapi kalau usaha berterusan kita mesti boleh berjaya... biasalah kerana nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga... tak semua org seperti yang carbon katakan.
  • laici
    I LOVE SYN... x ada mana2 tempat lain sehebat SYN anda hanya dengar cakap org... tapi tak pernah alami... Allah sentiasa berpihak pada yang benar... Utk pengetahuan SGN dah tak der...
  • JOSE
    Hi all,

    I heard bout this SYN 2 years ago..but i dont feel to join their group..not very necessary to use their product...they just provoked you with a nice dream that you may not even dreaming...only when you can do as what they do you can be succesful...you need to build ur "NETWORK" to become success..ARE YOU SURE TO JOIN??? think carefully....i already do investigation bout this biz...you need 5 thing but the main is BIG CAPITAL...everything cause money...the leaders or any title they hold do not help you to increase ur money but they just give their support to ensure u workhard to build ur network to bring money for u and also for them..u will generate money for them...U will be their "balaci" to make their richer than u...yes many ppl say joining MLM is not easy..dat rite...but if they "SYN or SGN" doesn't provoked ppl with their "SloGAN -FINICIAL FREEDOM, ACHIEVED UR DREAM AS WHAT THEY ACHIEVED" just showing the nice style,drive a sporty car...nobody will follow them if just based on the product...now they attack KULIM,Kedah...a lot of ppl (gov sector) joining their network...the promise was the same...WE WORK AS A TEAM>>JUST INVITED UR BEST FRIEND TO JOIN US>>ANYTHING WE WILL HELP U BUT NOT MONEY>>>everybody sorry to say Malay was blind with their promise and short term achievement...IF U can't bring a ppl to join ur network..it nothing u can earn...THEY NOT MENTION BOUT THIS CLEARLY....THEY just say...once the network is bigger the company will stop recruiting ppl and open a new biz..selling the oil n part for the lampe...u will get an profit from it...just that..but now it almost 7-8years...still recruiting ppl...HOW?...only with HEAD HUNTING U WIL BE RICH ONLY IN FEW MONTHS...AGREE?????
    I HATE WITH THIS SYN MEMBERS....ALWAYS CHEAT EVERWHERE....
  • JOSE
  • Quest
    Anyone heard of Steady Global Network =, and how long they been in the market. As they have offices in World Wide. Is this true?. Have you been in there? Any comment that you can advice me. So far I have heard Doc, Engineer, Executive had resigned to do Full time.... earning 5 digit income.
  • bakar
    I live in USA. You can buy Lampe Berger items from internet. What so difficult? I used to buy from the Lampe Berger.
  • lembu berger
    sebut jer SYN, panas mcm sial. mula2 aku kena brainwash. sape2 pun xkan sedar. formhd ni lebih kurang mcm maklumat peribadi kita. bila dah dpt, kisah hidup kita akan di bagi kat upline dia utk membakar kita supaya join.mcm SIAL SYN!! modal 2.5k. camne nak dpt modal?? pinjam ngn member,sedara mara..ckp kita nak guna sangat2 duit tu. dah jadi kes MENIPU ni!! dimana tu SINCERE??? kpd kwn2 yg baru baca msj ni, sy harap korang sume CEPAT2 TARIK DIRI!! lepas dah jd franchise, korang diminta MELABUR LAGI 36K utk jd COUNT!! xjadi count akan diMARAH!! percayalah semua.. ni info terbaru yg sy dpt tau, nak jadi MARQUIS korang perlu MELABUR 150K. kenapa SYN merahsiakan plan marketing?? sedangkan ada jer tunjuk kat web DCHL. nak jadi COUNT, kena tgk PLAN COUNT> ape sume ni...pas dah jadi count, ape plak lagi yang nak jadi. so sedarlah skarang k. sebenarnya byk lagi yang nak diceritakan. kpada anda yang SEDANG BACA msj ni, sy ucapkan TERIMA KASIH, kerana anda masih ada sikit kesedaran dari sudut negatif syarikat ini.bukan anda sorang, tapi ramai lagi. korang prasan tak, company MLM lain xde pun aduan yang mcm ni. x caya cuba cari..nak tau byak lagi kol sy,byk orang BEKAS SYN yang saya dah jumpa. dari franchise hingga marquis. heran kan DAH JADI MARQUIS PUN BERENTI BUAT. kenapa msti jd marquis kenapa tak pilih utk jadi MILLIONAIRE! skrang sy dah join mlm yg baru. nyata skali company ni btul2 kukuh. baru seminggu dah dpt 10K.di SYN sebulan pun tkde. lg habes duit adala..PEGI EVENT BAYAR PROSPEK SKALI!! NAYA BEB,,sape yg masih ragu2 bleh kol sy . emel, xtra_vaganzas@yahoo.com
  • Dato' Ahmad
    I've been involved in the Network Marketing industry for a year, and currently earning RM800 per day from this. Since I joined in Jan 2008, I only spend my weekends for this, as I spend my weekdays working. I will not reveal the name of my company here.

    Network Marketing is the best way to launch one's business career. Refer to Robert Kiyosaki video clip on 'Why Network Marketing?' on Youtube. It provides you the platform to enter the business world, with very low start-up costs. With proper mindset, effort, and actions, you can definitely succeed.

    However, most Network Marketing companies in Malaysia are either scams, or even if they're not scams legal-wise, they're either forbidden in Islam, or have weakness in terms of their products, or compensation structure, that makes it difficult for one to succeed in making money through it.

    However, there are only two network marketing companies in Malaysia that has perfect products and compensation structures. Both legal and allowed in Islam, and have good business features. I don't guarantee that you can succeed with it, of course you still need to put in the right effort and strategy, but the business model does make it easier for you to succeed.

    There are only THREE network marketing companies in Malaysia, that you can trust - AMWAY, BIONUTRIC/I-LINKAGE, or SUCCESS UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA. The rest are BULLSHIT. Especially LAMPE BERGER. I'm saying this, honestly, as a neutral, and as someone who's experienced and have succeeded in Network Marketing and also other businesses. Honestly, you can have my word on this.

    I do know the facts and I'm experienced in the MLM and Network Marketing industry, and I'm recommending if you want to make money through Network Marketing, DO NOT JOIN LAMPEBERGER/DCHL/SYN. There are too many features about it that makes it an absolute scam. Join one of the three I mentioned above.

    You can be rich from it, if you put in the right effort and strategy, but once you become rich, you've ended up ruining many people's lives.

    Here's the shocker, RZ Corporation, the company running SYN/DHCL/LAMPE BERGER, is actually an illegal company. You can refer to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs website. It has been illegal for a year now. It's JB branch has been closed down, and is running illegally as we speak.

    ALL THE BEST IN YOUR PURSUIT OF SUCCESS,

    Motivated Entrepreneur Who Made A Million Before Age 21
  • GENG
    Waa.. geng2 ni mmg handal laa but marketing ..pakai sport car tu adik beradik..mcm xlogik je dpt duit mudah..tapi kena buat loan plak.. yang syok melayu ramai giler join mlm tu.. nampak muka dorang kesian je..surely ade yg berjaya klu usaha....tapi tapi mesti kena ada yg akan jadi mangsa!!!!..cuba teka // DAn cara dorang approach ..hahah kelakar juga ..haaa kamu tgk saya baru 20thn dah pakai sport car....haa yang itu tu kamu tgk my blader dia baru amik keluar itu keta sport punya..kamu xnak jadi macam saya kerr mudah sajaaaaa.. anyway good luck pada sape yg join..
  • hugashaka
    macam cerita kan...? SYN....ramai melayu mmg ramai....pernah sekali lalu...ramai gila....ntah la...nak percaya pon susah....member ada join....cerita gempak tgh meletop sanggup benti keja...last2....susah jugak nak cakap....dia yang tak pandai handle ke....syn menipu ka...ada sesiapa yang boleh jawab...lebih terang sikit....? manusia sekarang mmg makin canggih bab main duit nih...ada sesapa yang pernah buat report kat kementerian..? ada sesapa yang rasa dia ada bukti kukuh..? ada sesiapa yang mmg dah libatkan diri dan terasa kena tipu...? sharing kat sini ngan rasa jujur...
  • lembu berger
    alow hugashaka..ko jer yang tak tau.. syn ni dah lama masuk kuar paper..antara 100 syarikat yang jadi perhatian. ko ni +++++ sgt dah.. cuba keluar kan telinga tu skit, dgr yang lain..weii..banyak lagi la bisnes yang hebat kat luar tu. BODOH!
  • kenny
    sudah lar...enough all this complaining. When we as an adult will stop complaining if things doesn't go our way? Be it you join LB, SYN, Amway, Network21, Cosway, Easyphamax, whatever MLM you come across will be the same thing. Consider yourself lucky if you have a good upline or mentor to guide you. Else you will have a rough start in the business.

    Have you ever come across an MLM company that gurantee you can money even if you doing nothing? None. Have you read books? Read books from successful people. They are the proof that the system works. If you listen to a loser, you will be always be a loser. Listen to a winner, you will be always be a winner.

    I am not endorsing any MLM business. MLM is just another way of making money. You can find good people and bad people in any business. You can find nice mamak restaurant that the waiters treat you like king and you also can find a mamak restaurant that treat you like a piece of shit. You can fuck that latter but can you said all mamak restaurant is the same? NO. Use your brain. Don't use your ass when thinking.
  • hugashaka
    : )
  • Can anyone tell me why is RZ Corp. Sdn. Bhd. AJL 931127 not renewed? ref- kpdnhep AJL listed company list. I also doing partime MLM marketing and doing quite well but you have to work in order to get returns... This DCHL/ RZ Corp. is just a big scam where you have to put down a very hefty sums of money in order to generate down line which i fine very ridiculous. WHAT?? RM 70.00 for an EDC card, RM 80.00 for a starter kit (no p.a. insurance for distributors) and in order for one to star recruiting and buy from the company you have to become a franchisee another RM 2345.00 which now going for and limited time offer for RM 1500.00. WHAT AND LIMITED TIME OFFER?? What the hell. If you want to be an BARON you can by PV's at RM 11,250.00. WHAT U BUY PV's, hahaha im laughing my brains out. In a MLM that im in now i earn pv's which in return i earn bonus commissions paid in cash directly into my bank account. I feel sorry for anyone that got suck into DCHL/RZ Corp. for me it's all a scam and for those who are going to be or consider joining i suggest that do some research first.

    go DD's
  • How about Sunshine Empire (SE)? Is it a scam? I have one friend who had invested more than RM 100,000 in SE in Singapore.
  • vinr
    Hi all negative & positive bloggers! I'm doing MLM business as my living cos only through MLM that someone can become "someone". It's easy to succeed in this MLM Business. You just need, first, a POSITIVE ATTITUDE, secondly u choose the RIGHT COMPANY! The point is that, choose a company which offers NO RISK, FAST RETURN & HIGH RETURN concept. It's easy to think laaa frens (especially to those who have joined DCHL/Lamp Berger/SYN or whatever related..), if one company offers you RM3,000 and with that RM3k paid once in a lifetime onlu, your POTENTIAL INCOME is RM140,000 per month! Would you be very STUPID to go to a company which ask you to dumb RM30K or higher after they get your RM2,500 member fee??? ...LU PIKIR LA SENDIRI...
  • alamanac
    Scam?.it's all probability guys..not all people can do it (2 out of 5). Their approach of 'no better occupation than theirs' make me thinking..then all people should join this!! (quit school?maybe). Had use it before, but the perfume dried up quickly. And their concept about 'purifying the air' is actually drying up our money. If you after the world, you might as well get it (masyukkk). Seriously, Allah SWT gives us brain to think. To work. To serve. To give back to society. To earn our money implicitly.
  • anti pyramid
    MLM (not SGN @ LB) is oportunity not succeed...
  • ada stocks
    hi all

    Lamp Berger products(i.e. limited design lamp & Oil) Selling at HALF PRICE
    not asking you to join MLM as i am not a member now...
    please do not hesitate to contact 012-6145 788
    Thanks !
  • alimamak
    ini la dia golongan YAKJUJ & MAKJUJ baru dunia
  • Iskandar Yeam
    Is Lampe Berger HALAL? I think not...
  • Justeen
    Dumping 30k+ to be a COUNT?. Imagine starting your car in 4th gear.What do you think will happen? It jerks and die!
  • 11277
    What ever biz u guys doing..no one ever guarantee ur money cash back..operate food shop..pharmacy..clinic..all NEVER guarantee your money back if you Do Not Learn or Work on your biz.

    What ever MLM you doing, if you learn sincerely and all that..you will be successful maybe not financially, but as a human being.

    Ive been in DCHL for over a year. I started off with Franchisee and i went up to Count in just 2 months. I didn't pump in 30k. And neither my network. I tell them if you want to build up, u go ahead. If you want to speed up, make sure you can pay back the money. That's all.

    So for those who pumped in 30k to be a count before..do not accuse your upline or side teams if you cannot get back your money. Think back where've you made your mistake.

    LB, Estebel & ED Pinaud..are all good products. Use them..then u can talk to your friends about the products. If you don't use them, meaning you are lying to your prospects when you talk about the products.

    To be successful and problem-free in Network Marketing, u must have a mindset of willing to learn. Don't get too excited about the marketing plan. Products are always 1st, the biz plan is just a guideline of where the hell are you in the biz. That's all.

    Now, I have over 1500 people in my network. Never I asked them to pump in large sum of money if they don't understand how to move first.

    I have a friend..he dumped in 30k+ to be a Count..he paid back the money in just 1 month. It happenned in front of me..it was incredible. Strategy is also an added bonus in Network Marketing. Same goes to when you open a shop. Nobody wants to open a shop facing a garbage dumpsite..rite? So..it applies to everything.

    Friends..be sincere. Profit comes in once, Friendships are always till the end.

    Thanks.
blog comments powered by Disqus