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Lampe Berger: Scam or No Scam?

I didn’t expect that this thread is still alive after so many months since I posted it. I would like to hereby make a conclusion to this entire furor over the legitimacy of the whole Lampe Berger thing.

First of all, my conclusion is totally made up of my own opinion, and it might not suit your way of looking at the whole thing. But I hope you do not take offence or feel that I am in any way saying what you think right now is wrong. All I am hoping is that we look at this whole agenda in an objective manner, and if you ever start feeling uncomfortable as you read through this post, click the ??lose Window? or Ctrl+W? button immediately, and we can still be friends! :-D

Okay, here goes??Firstly, I do not want to condemn the way Lampe Berger is going about their distributing or recruiting scheme. If someone is making profit out of it, fine. If someone is enjoying the process of distributing and recruiting using the scheme, fine. As for me, after looking at the grand scheme of things, I have personally concluded that to use such a scheme to achieve my personal financial freedom is not aligned with my personal guidelines.

You see, this is a personal choice. I can neither make this choice for you nor for anyone else. You need to check with your conscience and if you think your decision can make you sleep soundly at night, than it?? the right thing to do.

Many of you might say that some people are brainwashed into joining the scheme, but how can one be brainwashed without being actively involved in the decision making process. Let?? not go into hypnotism here, we are here talking about adults who have learn enough about how to differentiate whether an act is helping others or harming others. So, for those who are brainwashed, you must already have the intention inside of you before you can make the decision to do something.

Back to the issue, I would like to point out that this scheme is neither evil nor good. This scheme only becomes evil if some greedy individual make use of it to victimized other individuals to achieve his objective.

This scheme is good if it?? used to distribute a product with the intention to reduce cost and increase efficiency so that more people can enjoy the product at a reasonable price.

Once again, the good and bad of this plan do not lie in the plan itself, but with the executor of the plan. If you have no idea whether the execution has resulted into something positive or negative, just listen to the feedback of the people who has joined the plan or used the product. This should give you a very good standpoint to judge your action and also to review if you should continue the cycle again. Judging can also be very difficult if you do not posses the necessary experience and information, and hence it is better for you to seek advice or opinions from people who are more knowledgeable than you and of course, whose opinions you respect.

I would like to re-emphasize my standpoint; I do not want to condemn this marketing plan?. I have personally used my own guidelines? to evaluate the whole scheme and have concluded that I am unable to accept the way this scheme works and hence if I?? join this business, it will make me a very unhappy person. No doubt, some people are making tonnes of profit from it, and that?? good for them, and I hope they are able to give as much as they??e received. As for me, I can still achieve my financial objectives through a different channel, while enjoying the process of getting there, which is exactly what I am doing now.

As for those people who had been lied to? or scammed? by this plan, all I can say is learn from it. Yes, you can complaint and rant about it for the rest of your life, but if you do not learn why you had been scammed?, then you will still be scammed again by some other scams that comes along the way. There?? nothing worst in life than making the same mistakes over and over again.

That?? about it, my conclusion on the whole Lampe Berger agenda. Like I said, do what you wish with your money, nobody can stop you. My only advice to you is, do not just look at the all the nice promises and gimmicks you see with your raw eyes. Take a step back, ask yourself:

(i) Is this really something you want to do?
(ii) If the plan fails, will you be able to take up full responsibility?
(iii) Will you feel happy doing it?
(iv) Will it benefit everyone and yourself?
(v) Would you want others to do this onto you?
(vi) Will you be able to sleep safe and sound tonight?

If you answer NO to any of those questions above, you should be very clear what to do next- keep your day job!





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  1. SUPERMAN xde pun jat ctu kate dah batal. tgk my post date utk tau bile saya periksa.

    Comment by xyberlj — October 8, 2008 @ 1:53 pm

  2. Dear friends,

    yeah, dun simply listen to your upline…it's all cheated!!!……i'm one of the victim. From the beginning, i still a student in local university. One day, one of my so call ” friend” ask me to attend one seminar. According to her, this is a great opportunity to listen to the talk. The speaker is a very smart and successful person in life. Surely he will bring a lot of benefit to us. But she didn't mention wat is the purpose of the seminar. She didn't gave much time for me to consider and straight away arrange transportation for me and some of my friends to attend that seminar. At the moment, i believe my friend that the seminar will beneifit me. But, after that, i realise that this is a MLM business and so call network marketing. At the time, i didn't feel any interested in that business, but believe me, please don't ever go to that kind of seminar. U will easily be influenced and brainwashed. They came from a large group. There are a lot of members there, sure u will be catched. This is my real experience. After join the LB, i feel uneasy and disagreed with the tactics they are using. They usually use the relationship and trustee between you and your friends to win the business. After join about 1 month, i feel guilty, i can't even convince myself to do the business. I feel that is like a cheated games………The money that i invested is gone and cannot refund anymore………….So, friends, please think twice before you make a decision. I treat it as one of my biggest mistake in my life and i learn from it.

    Comment by karen — October 10, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

  3. MLM business is mean that if the least person which join this business didn't find any people to join but if he still can earn money, that only can MLM business… If not all just BULLSHIT!
    For example, Cosway , Amway and Elken can call is the tranditional and can earn money MLM business. Because they really selling the product! But for LB, is just cheat! WHat they sell? Lamp? Or a Bullshit Plan? And the person inside is so bad… The guy was damn bad…. Cheated women…..All are playboy! LB is just a cheated club!

    Comment by Gigi — November 10, 2008 @ 10:35 am

  4. not every MLM company is like that…what is good will last for long time…what is wrong will never last for long..time can prove everything. Example Amway. Amway is a really good comapany…this company awarded BrandLaureate 2006-2007.” Laureate mean “one that is worthy of the greatest honour or distinction”. Pick the right comapny and understand what is MLM and the company background and the marketing plan.

    Comment by xx — November 11, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

  5. from my opinion, MLM, LB or any business network is not a scam. If u really can do it, u will successful like those guys on top. but the question here is….CAN YOU REALLY DO IT?? do u know how many ppl join and struggle and only a handful get to be on top?? what makes you think you will be the one on top? Wat Chuan says is true, it's ur own money, you can use it however you want. If u wanna give urself a shot to be on top, when u faied one day, those company will say THANK YOU to u for paying the membership fees and etc..hehe

    Comment by kevn — November 11, 2008 @ 5:46 pm

  6. SYN is really a good company? u ask 10 person, they all will told u that was a damn shit company….Yup, not everyone can do that business.. you know why? The person which can success just because they bring a lot ppl inside….The money they earn act is the member that they bring in giv them also…. If not i ask you, how they earn money! Now they targeted the market to Malay ppl alr…u know why? Just because all chinese alr didn't trust them… They hard to wash chinese brain alr… So they try to change target for the Malay fren…. That day I saw a lot of SYN ppl in Time Square there…. They every month will hav the “WASH BRAIN” function…..I saw a lot of Malay Fren…. God bkess u all…….

    Comment by Constance — November 12, 2008 @ 3:08 pm

  7. ramainya people suka hentam sana, hentam sini. semua perkara baru kite kene think + first, n think – untuk langkah berhati-hati. skali u dh joint dgn mn2 prog, kene usaha lebih la sampai dpt hasilnya.. itu pun susah sgt ke nk pikir.. suka hati diorang la nk masuk ape pun..

    Comment by makhluk tuhan — November 20, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

  8. yeah.. pretty much the truth.. its about personal choice.. but as the statistic says, no matter how optimistic the person joins is, mostly will fail at it because the system itself is ruined.. pls visit my writing about similar topic at http://diwant.blog.friendster.com/ . tahnks…

    Comment by d1 — November 22, 2008 @ 10:35 am

  9. SGN n SYN…sama penipu…let me told you one story…mula2 diorng ajak kwn2 baik diorg dulu…ayat dia cmni…KO KENA DTG DENGAR DULU..NI BKN CTER2 KEDAI KOPI PUNYE..KALAU KO DTG BARU KO TAU…so mmbr2 aku ni pun dtg dngr lar..kang x pg kwn baik..x kan lar kawan baik nak kenceng kot….abis je dengau cter..psl udara lar..200 years product lar…duit sbln leh dpt 20k lar…ada mamat dr HQ cter psl dia ssh dulu lar..pas2 terus kaya…kalau msk group x kan biarkan ahli terkapai-kapai….BAIKKK..SANGATT BAIKKK…YESS…

    abis je dngr cter..diorg followup blk..ajak naik tngk HQ kalau x percaya…perghhhh…bestnyer tempat ni..semua org pakai baju kot…tengk SPA lagi…so kwn2 baik ni percaya ler biz kwn2 baik yg ajak dulu ni mmg betul….sok lusa pump 2.5k…x sampai 2 mggu ajak amik level yg top…ayat baikk jer..KO KALAU NAK RS MCM AKU KO MSK 30KNYER…CROWN TUE….mana aku nak cr duit…ALAHHHH…CMNI KO PERGI JE BUAT PERSONAL LOAN…ALAHHH 30K JE…DLM MS 4-5 BLN KO DAH ABIS BAYO…APA KO NAK TAKUT…SBLN KO DPT 20K TU….

    sekarangggggggggg…………mmbr baik pun dah x jumpa…lari sana-sini….stock myk beribu2 kat rumah jer….groups yg kata nak tlg pun hampehhh…dah ler berhenti keje..igt nak buat full time..last2 tlg keje wiring dr mmbr2….

    IGT LAR KWN2 SEMUA…SGN CKP SYN PARASIT…SYN PUN CKP SAMA JE AYATNYER…DIORG NI DAH TERPESONG DARI MATLAMAT SEBENAR LAR…TU SEMUA AYAT STANDARD YG KORANG AKAN DENGAR KALAU KORANG JUST NAK PERGI DNGR MAMAT2 SYN N SGN NI CTER…X PRCAYA KORNG PG LER…PRGI X PER JGN MSK DAH LERR…

    LA NI AKU DENGAQ KECOH2 KAT MELAKA LAK…SYN DTG BUAT GERAK GEMPUR…

    Comment by carbon — November 23, 2008 @ 12:52 am

  10. one thing for sure, this is a scam… only brainwahsed person will say no… i've been inthis hell and out of it soon enough to still be rational and i really thank god for that… at least not losing frens, money and time like others… phew~~~

    p/s: no free lunch in this world… upline help even not taking a cent out of it? that is so bullshit… but u never know if you are the one who get the help… people beside u who care about u will know… that's the nature of human… weird right… hehehe…

    Comment by scammer — November 26, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

  11. very agree… this is a true story that same with my own as well… if u wanna go such seminar, make sure your mentality is strong or else u'll be brain washed. when u are brainwashed, whatever we say here become bullshit and whatever they do is best. u'll never admit you are in the wrong world coz you are desprate to find your victim at that time…

    and it takes a lots af sacrifice to get out of the hell. lost frens, time, money and etc. and when you recall what you had done previously you'll feel very guilty to your frens and if you recall what had you said previously when you are brainwashed, you'll feel like want to beat urself. you can only realised the truth after long painful spell.

    and when you are out of the hell, you feel very sorry to see those people who are newly cheated and feel sympathy for those who are argueing with you when you telling the truth on how dangerous this thing can be… you feel all these coz you had saw everything about it…

    god bless u all… be rational…

    Comment by dreamer — November 26, 2008 @ 11:03 pm

  12. My self Manoj Patel residing at Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India. Previously I was join with Mr. Steven Yeam, I had started our DCHL / SYN Office at Ahmedabad under Steven Yeam leadership. I want to start this business again, so let me know what to do? or I like to talk with Mr. Steven Yeam. Please help me. With Regards Manoj Patel

    Comment by Manoj Patel — December 3, 2008 @ 7:48 pm

  13. I want to restart my business. Previously I was join with Steven Yeam as count position. For that what I have to do? I was join DCHL / SYN in India Ahmedabad Gujarat. Plz help me. With Regards Manoj Patel.

    Comment by Manoj Patel — December 3, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

  14. La pe nak kecoh… mana MLm pun mmg leh jump nye… tapi mana der MLM yang leh sponser…
    semuanya kena ada usaha yang berterusan… kawan awak tu mmh dah tau dia kena usaha then baru dapat.. mmg tak mustahil boleh dapat 20k sebulan sebab saya dah dapat 21k dlm 2 minggu.
    tapi ni bukan skim cepat kaya sentiasa dapat banyak.. mana2 biz mmg ada naik turun… tapi kalau usaha berterusan kita mesti boleh berjaya… biasalah kerana nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga… tak semua org seperti yang carbon katakan.

    Comment by laici — December 11, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

  15. I LOVE SYN… x ada mana2 tempat lain sehebat SYN anda hanya dengar cakap org… tapi tak pernah alami… Allah sentiasa berpihak pada yang benar… Utk pengetahuan SGN dah tak der…

    Comment by laici — December 11, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

  16. bad luck for your you. Mine better. My team always help me. I get more friends. more time, more money. just need to work lil bit harder. Please go see your upline's upline. they should help.

    Comment by a5k — December 16, 2008 @ 6:19 pm

  17. Hi all,

    I heard bout this SYN 2 years ago..but i dont feel to join their group..not very necessary to use their product…they just provoked you with a nice dream that you may not even dreaming…only when you can do as what they do you can be succesful…you need to build ur “NETWORK” to become success..ARE YOU SURE TO JOIN??? think carefully….i already do investigation bout this biz…you need 5 thing but the main is BIG CAPITAL…everything cause money…the leaders or any title they hold do not help you to increase ur money but they just give their support to ensure u workhard to build ur network to bring money for u and also for them..u will generate money for them…U will be their “balaci” to make their richer than u…yes many ppl say joining MLM is not easy..dat rite…but if they “SYN or SGN” doesn't provoked ppl with their “SloGAN -FINICIAL FREEDOM, ACHIEVED UR DREAM AS WHAT THEY ACHIEVED” just showing the nice style,drive a sporty car…nobody will follow them if just based on the product…now they attack KULIM,Kedah…a lot of ppl (gov sector) joining their network…the promise was the same…WE WORK AS A TEAM>>JUST INVITED UR BEST FRIEND TO JOIN US>>ANYTHING WE WILL HELP U BUT NOT MONEY>>>everybody sorry to say Malay was blind with their promise and short term achievement…IF U can't bring a ppl to join ur network..it nothing u can earn…THEY NOT MENTION BOUT THIS CLEARLY….THEY just say…once the network is bigger the company will stop recruiting ppl and open a new biz..selling the oil n part for the lampe…u will get an profit from it…just that..but now it almost 7-8years…still recruiting ppl…HOW?…only with HEAD HUNTING U WIL BE RICH ONLY IN FEW MONTHS…AGREE?????
    I HATE WITH THIS SYN MEMBERS….ALWAYS CHEAT EVERWHERE….

    Comment by JOSE — December 18, 2008 @ 6:10 pm

  18. Hi…try to read this tread..

    http://www.carigold.com/portal/forums/showthrea...

    Comment by JOSE — December 18, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

  19. Anyone heard of Steady Global Network =, and how long they been in the market. As they have offices in World Wide. Is this true?. Have you been in there? Any comment that you can advice me. So far I have heard Doc, Engineer, Executive had resigned to do Full time…. earning 5 digit income.

    Comment by Quest — December 22, 2008 @ 11:46 am

  20. I live in USA. You can buy Lampe Berger items from internet. What so difficult? I used to buy from the Lampe Berger.

    Comment by bakar — December 24, 2008 @ 4:59 am

  21. sebut jer SYN, panas mcm sial. mula2 aku kena brainwash. sape2 pun xkan sedar. formhd ni lebih kurang mcm maklumat peribadi kita. bila dah dpt, kisah hidup kita akan di bagi kat upline dia utk membakar kita supaya join.mcm SIAL SYN!! modal 2.5k. camne nak dpt modal?? pinjam ngn member,sedara mara..ckp kita nak guna sangat2 duit tu. dah jadi kes MENIPU ni!! dimana tu SINCERE??? kpd kwn2 yg baru baca msj ni, sy harap korang sume CEPAT2 TARIK DIRI!! lepas dah jd franchise, korang diminta MELABUR LAGI 36K utk jd COUNT!! xjadi count akan diMARAH!! percayalah semua.. ni info terbaru yg sy dpt tau, nak jadi MARQUIS korang perlu MELABUR 150K. kenapa SYN merahsiakan plan marketing?? sedangkan ada jer tunjuk kat web DCHL. nak jadi COUNT, kena tgk PLAN COUNT> ape sume ni…pas dah jadi count, ape plak lagi yang nak jadi. so sedarlah skarang k. sebenarnya byk lagi yang nak diceritakan. kpada anda yang SEDANG BACA msj ni, sy ucapkan TERIMA KASIH, kerana anda masih ada sikit kesedaran dari sudut negatif syarikat ini.bukan anda sorang, tapi ramai lagi. korang prasan tak, company MLM lain xde pun aduan yang mcm ni. x caya cuba cari..nak tau byak lagi kol sy,byk orang BEKAS SYN yang saya dah jumpa. dari franchise hingga marquis. heran kan DAH JADI MARQUIS PUN BERENTI BUAT. kenapa msti jd marquis kenapa tak pilih utk jadi MILLIONAIRE! skrang sy dah join mlm yg baru. nyata skali company ni btul2 kukuh. baru seminggu dah dpt 10K.di SYN sebulan pun tkde. lg habes duit adala..PEGI EVENT BAYAR PROSPEK SKALI!! NAYA BEB,,sape yg masih ragu2 bleh kol sy . emel, xtra_vaganzas@yahoo.com

    Comment by lembu berger — January 2, 2009 @ 12:33 am

  22. I've been involved in the Network Marketing industry for a year, and currently earning RM800 per day from this. Since I joined in Jan 2008, I only spend my weekends for this, as I spend my weekdays working. I will not reveal the name of my company here.

    Network Marketing is the best way to launch one's business career. Refer to Robert Kiyosaki video clip on 'Why Network Marketing?' on Youtube. It provides you the platform to enter the business world, with very low start-up costs. With proper mindset, effort, and actions, you can definitely succeed.

    However, most Network Marketing companies in Malaysia are either scams, or even if they're not scams legal-wise, they're either forbidden in Islam, or have weakness in terms of their products, or compensation structure, that makes it difficult for one to succeed in making money through it.

    However, there are only two network marketing companies in Malaysia that has perfect products and compensation structures. Both legal and allowed in Islam, and have good business features. I don't guarantee that you can succeed with it, of course you still need to put in the right effort and strategy, but the business model does make it easier for you to succeed.

    There are only THREE network marketing companies in Malaysia, that you can trust – AMWAY, BIONUTRIC/I-LINKAGE, or SUCCESS UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA. The rest are BULLSHIT. Especially LAMPE BERGER. I'm saying this, honestly, as a neutral, and as someone who's experienced and have succeeded in Network Marketing and also other businesses. Honestly, you can have my word on this.

    I do know the facts and I'm experienced in the MLM and Network Marketing industry, and I'm recommending if you want to make money through Network Marketing, DO NOT JOIN LAMPEBERGER/DCHL/SYN. There are too many features about it that makes it an absolute scam. Join one of the three I mentioned above.

    You can be rich from it, if you put in the right effort and strategy, but once you become rich, you've ended up ruining many people's lives.

    Here's the shocker, RZ Corporation, the company running SYN/DHCL/LAMPE BERGER, is actually an illegal company. You can refer to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs website. It has been illegal for a year now. It's JB branch has been closed down, and is running illegally as we speak.

    ALL THE BEST IN YOUR PURSUIT OF SUCCESS,

    Motivated Entrepreneur Who Made A Million Before Age 21

    Comment by Dato' Ahmad — January 4, 2009 @ 1:32 am

  23. Waa.. geng2 ni mmg handal laa but marketing ..pakai sport car tu adik beradik..mcm xlogik je dpt duit mudah..tapi kena buat loan plak.. yang syok melayu ramai giler join mlm tu.. nampak muka dorang kesian je..surely ade yg berjaya klu usaha….tapi tapi mesti kena ada yg akan jadi mangsa!!!!..cuba teka // DAn cara dorang approach ..hahah kelakar juga ..haaa kamu tgk saya baru 20thn dah pakai sport car….haa yang itu tu kamu tgk my blader dia baru amik keluar itu keta sport punya..kamu xnak jadi macam saya kerr mudah sajaaaaa.. anyway good luck pada sape yg join..

    Comment by GENG — January 4, 2009 @ 12:22 pm

  24. I've been involved in the Network Marketing industry for a year, and currently earning RM800 per day from this. Since I joined in Jan 2008, I only spend my weekends for this, as I spend my weekdays working. I will not reveal the name of my company here.

    Network Marketing is the best way to launch one's business career. Refer to Robert Kiyosaki video clip on 'Why Network Marketing?' on Youtube. It provides you the platform to enter the business world, with very low start-up costs. With proper mindset, effort, and actions, you can definitely succeed.

    However, most Network Marketing companies in Malaysia are either scams, or even if they're not scams legal-wise, they're either forbidden in Islam, or have weakness in terms of their products, or compensation structure, that makes it difficult for one to succeed in making money through it.

    However, there are only two network marketing companies in Malaysia that has perfect products and compensation structures. Both legal and allowed in Islam, and have good business features. I don't guarantee that you can succeed with it, of course you still need to put in the right effort and strategy, but the business model does make it easier for you to succeed.

    There are only THREE network marketing companies in Malaysia, that you can trust – AMWAY, BIONUTRIC/I-LINKAGE, or SUCCESS UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA. The rest are BULLSHIT. Especially LAMPE BERGER. I'm saying this, honestly, as a neutral, and as someone who's experienced and have succeeded in Network Marketing and also other businesses. Honestly, you can have my word on this.

    I do know the facts and I'm experienced in the MLM and Network Marketing industry, and I'm recommending if you want to make money through Network Marketing, DO NOT JOIN LAMPEBERGER/DCHL/SYN. There are too many features about it that makes it an absolute scam. Join one of the three I mentioned above.

    You can be rich from it, if you put in the right effort and strategy, but once you become rich, you've ended up ruining many people's lives.

    Here's the shocker, RZ Corporation, the company running SYN/DHCL/LAMPE BERGER, is actually an illegal company. You can refer to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs website. It has been illegal for a year now. It's JB branch has been closed down, and is running illegally as we speak.

    ALL THE BEST IN YOUR PURSUIT OF SUCCESS,

    Motivated Entrepreneur Who Made A Million Before Age 21

    Comment by Dato' Ahmad — January 6, 2009 @ 10:28 pm

  25. macam cerita kan…? SYN….ramai melayu mmg ramai….pernah sekali lalu…ramai gila….ntah la…nak percaya pon susah….member ada join….cerita gempak tgh meletop sanggup benti keja…last2….susah jugak nak cakap….dia yang tak pandai handle ke….syn menipu ka…ada sesiapa yang boleh jawab…lebih terang sikit….? manusia sekarang mmg makin canggih bab main duit nih…ada sesapa yang pernah buat report kat kementerian..? ada sesapa yang rasa dia ada bukti kukuh..? ada sesiapa yang mmg dah libatkan diri dan terasa kena tipu…? sharing kat sini ngan rasa jujur…

    Comment by hugashaka — January 7, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

  26. sudah lar…enough all this complaining. When we as an adult will stop complaining if things doesn't go our way? Be it you join LB, SYN, Amway, Network21, Cosway, Easyphamax, whatever MLM you come across will be the same thing. Consider yourself lucky if you have a good upline or mentor to guide you. Else you will have a rough start in the business.

    Have you ever come across an MLM company that gurantee you can money even if you doing nothing? None. Have you read books? Read books from successful people. They are the proof that the system works. If you listen to a loser, you will be always be a loser. Listen to a winner, you will be always be a winner.

    I am not endorsing any MLM business. MLM is just another way of making money. You can find good people and bad people in any business. You can find nice mamak restaurant that the waiters treat you like king and you also can find a mamak restaurant that treat you like a piece of shit. You can fuck that latter but can you said all mamak restaurant is the same? NO. Use your brain. Don't use your ass when thinking.

    Comment by kenny — January 18, 2009 @ 7:37 pm

  27. : )

    Comment by hugashaka — January 19, 2009 @ 6:34 pm

  28. Can anyone tell me why is RZ Corp. Sdn. Bhd. AJL 931127 not renewed? ref- kpdnhep AJL listed company list. I also doing partime MLM marketing and doing quite well but you have to work in order to get returns… This DCHL/ RZ Corp. is just a big scam where you have to put down a very hefty sums of money in order to generate down line which i fine very ridiculous. WHAT?? RM 70.00 for an EDC card, RM 80.00 for a starter kit (no p.a. insurance for distributors) and in order for one to star recruiting and buy from the company you have to become a franchisee another RM 2345.00 which now going for and limited time offer for RM 1500.00. WHAT AND LIMITED TIME OFFER?? What the hell. If you want to be an BARON you can by PV's at RM 11,250.00. WHAT U BUY PV's, hahaha im laughing my brains out. In a MLM that im in now i earn pv's which in return i earn bonus commissions paid in cash directly into my bank account. I feel sorry for anyone that got suck into DCHL/RZ Corp. for me it's all a scam and for those who are going to be or consider joining i suggest that do some research first.

    go DD's

    Comment by DD's — March 17, 2009 @ 12:16 pm

  29. How about Sunshine Empire (SE)? Is it a scam? I have one friend who had invested more than RM 100,000 in SE in Singapore.

    Comment by LOKE — March 19, 2009 @ 2:21 am

  30. Hi all negative & positive bloggers! I'm doing MLM business as my living cos only through MLM that someone can become “someone”. It's easy to succeed in this MLM Business. You just need, first, a POSITIVE ATTITUDE, secondly u choose the RIGHT COMPANY! The point is that, choose a company which offers NO RISK, FAST RETURN & HIGH RETURN concept. It's easy to think laaa frens (especially to those who have joined DCHL/Lamp Berger/SYN or whatever related..), if one company offers you RM3,000 and with that RM3k paid once in a lifetime onlu, your POTENTIAL INCOME is RM140,000 per month! Would you be very STUPID to go to a company which ask you to dumb RM30K or higher after they get your RM2,500 member fee??? …LU PIKIR LA SENDIRI…

    Comment by vinr — March 26, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

  31. Scam?.it's all probability guys..not all people can do it (2 out of 5). Their approach of 'no better occupation than theirs' make me thinking..then all people should join this!! (quit school?maybe). Had use it before, but the perfume dried up quickly. And their concept about 'purifying the air' is actually drying up our money. If you after the world, you might as well get it (masyukkk). Seriously, Allah SWT gives us brain to think. To work. To serve. To give back to society. To earn our money implicitly.

    Comment by alamanac — April 3, 2009 @ 7:44 am

  32. alow hugashaka..ko jer yang tak tau.. syn ni dah lama masuk kuar paper..antara 100 syarikat yang jadi perhatian. ko ni +++++ sgt dah.. cuba keluar kan telinga tu skit, dgr yang lain..weii..banyak lagi la bisnes yang hebat kat luar tu. BODOH!

    Comment by lembu berger — April 12, 2009 @ 7:34 pm

  33. MLM (not SGN @ LB) is oportunity not succeed…

    Comment by anti pyramid — April 15, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

  34. Thanks for the info…A few hours ago my friend invited me to join this scheme,.and I thought it was amazing..But after reading your story, I am scared of joining..lol..thanks!!!

    Comment by Nizam — April 16, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

  35. hi how to sell out those products? i have stock. thanks.

    Comment by kent — April 21, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

  36. Hi Chrisolution,

    May I know how and where I can sell out the stocks? Really appreciate if you can help me. thanks

    Comment by loochng — May 20, 2009 @ 11:31 pm

  37. this is not investment business.. just put money and do nothing.. u need to develope and grow… so sorry for u

    Comment by puteri — May 28, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

  38. I am a long term user. How do I contact u?

    Comment by Jasmine — June 12, 2009 @ 10:48 am

  39. I am long term user. How do I contact u?

    Comment by Jasmine — June 12, 2009 @ 10:49 am

  40. hi all

    Lamp Berger products(i.e. limited design lamp & Oil) Selling at HALF PRICE
    not asking you to join MLM as i am not a member now…
    please do not hesitate to contact 012-6145 788
    Thanks !

    Comment by ada stocks — July 4, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

  41. It seems theres as many Dato's in Malaysia as there are Sergeant in the Police Force. And you are only earning RM800 per day? That is what I earn per hour (USD). And all because of TRUE franchise business of FOOD industry.
    No matter what items / product you're selling to people, they always need food – from richest to poorest. All need food…and that is true business.

    Regards,

    Brig. General (R) Dato' Seri Dr. Alaudin bin Thamei
    Eagle Soar Corp. Ltd
    Brisbane, Aust.

    Comment by alimamak — July 22, 2009 @ 11:51 am

  42. ini la dia golongan YAKJUJ & MAKJUJ baru dunia

    Comment by alimamak — July 22, 2009 @ 11:56 am

  43. Is Lampe Berger HALAL? I think not…

    Comment by Iskandar Yeam — October 22, 2009 @ 12:52 am

  44. Dumping 30k+ to be a COUNT?. Imagine starting your car in 4th gear.What do you think will happen? It jerks and die!

    Comment by Justeen — November 6, 2009 @ 5:52 pm

  45. Hi, may i know if u can help me to sell back my stocks and how to contact u

    Comment by mankl — November 12, 2009 @ 4:29 pm

  46. What ever biz u guys doing..no one ever guarantee ur money cash back..operate food shop..pharmacy..clinic..all NEVER guarantee your money back if you Do Not Learn or Work on your biz.

    What ever MLM you doing, if you learn sincerely and all that..you will be successful maybe not financially, but as a human being.

    Ive been in DCHL for over a year. I started off with Franchisee and i went up to Count in just 2 months. I didn't pump in 30k. And neither my network. I tell them if you want to build up, u go ahead. If you want to speed up, make sure you can pay back the money. That's all.

    So for those who pumped in 30k to be a count before..do not accuse your upline or side teams if you cannot get back your money. Think back where've you made your mistake.

    LB, Estebel & ED Pinaud..are all good products. Use them..then u can talk to your friends about the products. If you don't use them, meaning you are lying to your prospects when you talk about the products.

    To be successful and problem-free in Network Marketing, u must have a mindset of willing to learn. Don't get too excited about the marketing plan. Products are always 1st, the biz plan is just a guideline of where the hell are you in the biz. That's all.

    Now, I have over 1500 people in my network. Never I asked them to pump in large sum of money if they don't understand how to move first.

    I have a friend..he dumped in 30k+ to be a Count..he paid back the money in just 1 month. It happenned in front of me..it was incredible. Strategy is also an added bonus in Network Marketing. Same goes to when you open a shop. Nobody wants to open a shop facing a garbage dumpsite..rite? So..it applies to everything.

    Friends..be sincere. Profit comes in once, Friendships are always till the end.

    Thanks.

    Comment by 11277 — February 8, 2010 @ 2:09 pm

  47. syn..tolong jangan join..bahaya

    Comment by Bizbaru — June 12, 2010 @ 11:29 pm

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